FS: Amsoil/DSM discount

[RS-Turbo91]

Hi everone,

It's been suggested I make a post in here to let everyone know that I do offer a 10% discount on Amsoil to members here. I've been offering this to the DSM community for many years, and don't plan on changing it. There also is a Preferred Customer Program available, allowing you to purchase at wholesale prices (approx. 20-30% from suggested retail). Let me know what you are interested in and we can figure out which discount and products would work the best for you.

[Explorer]

Hi, Michael
what type of AMSoil motor oil I should use on my 97GST? High Performance or Racing Oil 20-50? and how offen we change the oil and filter? and your price on them, oil, filter? last, how I get them sooner?
thank you.
DaoJai

97GST 16G/FMIC

[Glenn]

Daojai, you may want to email Mike directly or go to his website. You will be able to reach him much faster that way. ;)

[RS-Turbo91]

I'm around. DoaJai - I sent you an e-mail to your Yahoo account showing here. Let me know if you received it. For everyone else, I'm pasting some of the reply here:

How modified is your 97? In most cases you would not need to use the thicker oil viscosity. When I had my 91 Laser, I asked Amsoil Tech Services a similar question when I was running the Series 2000 0W-30 and was thinking of going back to the 20W-50, mainly because I had a few mods and thought “Racing Oil” had to be better. Amsoil told me this wasn’t the case, to use the viscosity or close to it, since the engine was designed this way. Also the lower viscosity was also race proven. Since then I have learned using thicker oil can actually cause problems, it cannot get into tight passages that a lot of newer cars now have. Oil also helps to cool the engine, by flowing through these tight areas and taking the heat away. A thicker oil can actually make the engine run hotter. If you have an older engine and are not familiar with the care it has had, or you know the clearances are not as tight as new, I’d try the 10W-40 first. If your engine is still pretty much stock on the inside and taken care of, go with the 5W-30 or 10W-30. I would not suggest using the XL-7500 line in these engines because of the heat the turbo generates. While this is considered a synthetic, it is a lower grade Group III synthetic. The mid-tier and Series 2000/3000 lines are higher quality Group IV synthetics, with the Series 2000/3000 line being Amsoil’s high end line. Since most of the performance people I deal with typically want the best, the Series 2000 0W-30 has been what I’ve usually recommended. However, recently I have found out that the Series 3000 5W-30 is an even more robust formula, since it is designed to handle Diesel applications. The Series 3000 is also rated for gasoline engines, but due to the tougher additive package for the demands of the Diesel Turbo motors, like those found in Ford Powerstrokes, I would lean towards this now as the ultimate oil. I recently changed all my vehicles over to this and the cost is the same as the Series 2000 gasoline only oils. Talking with a few other Dealers, they too have started to recommend this oil for extreme severe usage conditions. And I would consider these turbo DSM engines in that category.

[RS-Turbo91]

Hey all,

Well, I've moved. I am now closer to the UCF area. Because I moved, my phone number has changed as well. The new office number is 407-249-2716. If you are out of the Orlando area, I have a toll free number which has been up since Spring, it's 1-800-SYN-OIL-1. If you see a blue mini-van running around with decals and those numbers, it's me. I'm about to get the old number changed on the side, probably Friday.

I'm still giving the 10% discount to members and still setting up various wholesale accounts for those interested (Preferred Customer, Retail Store Accounts, Commercial Accounts, etc). Also the special I started running during the Spring is still going on for the Preferred Customer Six Month Trial Membership. More info is at my site.

Some new products have been introduced or upgraded this year. The entire line of 2-Cycle Oils was revamp, ATV and Offroad Motorcycle Air Filters were released, full line of Filters for the Ford Powerstroke 6.0 Engine (air, oil, fuel) and also an Air Filter for the Hummer 6.0, a 5W-40 European Formula Motor Oil, and this past month the Ams-Oiler Oil Precharger. This last unit is for those of you wanting that squirt of oil into your engine to prevent dry starts. It was mainly designed for boating applications where the boat may sit for months. Amsoil will be releasing a Coast Guard approved bypass filter system for marine applications and the Pre-Charger I believe will be part of the unit. But the Pre-Charger will fit their automotive bypass filter as well and they also made a stand alone unit.

I learned something new in regards to the way most synthetics are working these days with coating the engine. In the past, synthetics usually left a slight coating on the engine parts that helped to protect with dry starts. Also if the oil used esters as an additive, this also helped boost the protection. Now with most synthetics being a petroleum base and not using esters for additives, there is much less to protect at start up, almost like a petroleum oil. A straight PAO based synthetic will work better than a petroleum based synthetic, but those using esters to protect the engine will work far better. Amsoil is still using both in their middle tier and Series 2000/3000 line of oils.

Hope everyone (and their cars) survived Hurricane Charley!

Mike

[RS-Turbo91]

Wow, didn't realize this much time has gone by since I posted here last. Thought I'd give a quick 2 year recap on all the new products Amsoil now has. The company has continued to grow rapidly and is moving into a larger facility which should be fully operational by 2008. There are plans to open more warehouses throughout the country, and even the local one here in Orlando is looking for larger space already, and they just moved into this one a few years ago.

The Marine Bypass filter I mentioned in my last post was released soon after. For those using any of the Amsoil foam air filters, like the Power Sports Air Filters, they released a new filter oil.

In Sept. of 04 Amsoil replaced their Series 2000 Gear Lubes with a newer formula which is now called Severe Gear. With the smaller rear ends cars are getting and the less airflow under them, they developed this to handle the hotter conditions. It comes in a 75W-90 and 75W-140. Their regular line of Gear Lubes was done away with with most applications now using the Severe Gear. For over the road trucks they developed the 75W-90 and 75W-140 Long Life Gear Lubes. This is more for Heavy Duty applications. They did keep their 80W-90 Gear Lube since there still is a demand from some customers for this viscocity.

Amsoil's relationship with Donaldson Filters continued to grow and we are now able to sell their Endurance Air and Oil Filters for Heavy Duty applications. These filters were developed after the U.S. gov't approached Donaldson asking for better filtration for the M1 tanks to protect them from the fine dust they encountered during the first Gulf War. Donaldson developed nano-fiber technology. These filters add a very fine spider web-like material to the larger commonly used fibers to increase filtration, but not restrict airflow:

http://www.technilube.com/pics/nanox.jpg

Beginning of January 05 brought a reformulation of the Amsoil Propylene Glycol Antifreeze. Because of the costs to produce this fluid, the prices can fluctuate, but it has become more stable, other than all the overall price changes that have been occuring over the past two years for all companies.

March 05 Amsoil added and changed a lot. They released a new Universal Synthetic Marine Gear Lube meeting SAE 75W-90/80W-90. They also released a new Foam Filter Cleaner as well as increasing their line of Power Sports Air Filters. During this period, Mobil 1 released their new line of Extended Drain oils. Amsoil welcomes this competition because it only confirms what Amsoil has said all along: create a better oil, and it will last longer. However Mobil 1 doesn't warranty their 15,000 mile drain interval for new vehicles, to avoid any manufacturer issues. Amsoil will and still for 25,000 miles or one year. Don't get fooled with Mobil's ads claiming they are "changing oil" or claiming to be the first to offer extended drains, Amsoil has done it since day one.

April 2005 Amsoil put out their new line of Motorcycle Oils (10W-40 and 20W-50). This formula is the most advanced formula on the market and is getting even more wide recognition than their previous formula. Amsoil also paid an Independent Lab (Southwest Research Institute) to test these new oils to many other motorcycle oils, including Bel-Ray EXS, Castrol GPS, Golden Spectro 4, Mobil 1 V-Twin, Royal Purple Max-Cycle, HD Screamin' Eagle Syn3, etc.

Last summer two new Manual Transmission fluids were released: Synthetic Manual Transmission and Transaxle Gear Lube 75W-90 API GL-4, and Synthetic Syncromesh Transmission Fluid 5W-30. One is aimed more to GL-4 applications, the other to syncromesh users. I'd be curious to hear feedback if anyone has used these in a DSM application yet.

Also released were two new Marine dedicated oil, especially designed for four stroke outboard engines. These come in a 10W-30 and 10W-40 viscocity.

A filter upgrade kit produced by Donaldson under the Amsoil name is now available for the Ford 7.3 Power Stroke diesel upgrading the setup to a Power Core Filter.

The fall of last year saw the introduction to a whole new way to look at filtration with the new line of Ea Air and Oil Filters. Ea stands for "Absolute Efficiency." These filters use the nano-fiber technology mentioned above with the Donaldson filters. Since Donaldson works primarily with Heavy Duty applications, Amsoil has been licensed the rights to use this advanced technology in smaller applications, like light duty trucks and automotive. The oil filter filters out 97.8% of ALL particles down to 15 microns, and a good percentage below that. This is an "absolute" rating adopted from the hydraulic filter industry. Most filters on the market that advertise a certain micron size are showing a "nominal" rating, which means it only catches SOME of the particle down to that size, but their "absolute" rating is much higher. The oil filters are now also rated for 25,000 miles or one year in most vehicles, to go along with the standard oil drain interval Amsoil has always offered. The Ea Air Filter are reusable and rated for 4 years or 100,000 miles, but they are a dry filter. No messing reoiling. Simply every 25K take a shop vac to them and drop them back in. They flow just as well as your performance gauze filter like a K&N, but will filter out 50x the dust.

At the beginning of the year, Amsoil's 5W-40 European Formula was reformulated and meets many of the newer European ratings, including the VW 505.01 rating that the VW TDI has used for many years and only Castrol and Motul have held and sold for a high price.

Amsoil also became the first company in the world to develop and release a synthetic media cartridge oil filter. This new Ea Filter is for the Ford 6.0 Power Stroke diesel and also uses nano-fiber media.

Amsoil's relationship with Hastings ended in December and in January we became associated with Wix Filters. If it isn't in the Amsoil line of filters, I can get the Wix equivalent. This also includes their Racing Filters.

This past spring the bypass filters were converted over and now are part of the Ea lineup.

In May Amsoil released a Fogging Oil to be used for storing and protection of engines. Even bigger was the release of the new Ea Induction Filters. These filters are universal and are now available in various sizes to replace the aftermarket filters such and K&N, Injen, TrueFlow, etc. These use nano-fiber technology and look great:

http://www.technilube.com/pics/bottles/EaAU-group.jpg

Last month the Ea technology became part of the Motorcycle Oil Filters and also released were new Motorcycle Air Filters that fit most V-Twin applications. Also something long waited for.

Most recently products that became available to us were Donaldson TopSpin Filters that are pre-cleaner air filters for Heavy Duty applications, and Wix AquaChek Filters to eliminate moisture passage to tools and equipment.

So as you can see, a lot has happened. If anyone has any questions, feel free to email me.

[dsmkev]

well im interested in it

[Glenn]

You might want to email Mike directly. I am not sure if he checks here anymore.