Orlando Evo 8 Club Check-in/ Sponsorship program

[BYESTI]

Hey my fellow Evo owners! Just want to see how strong our click is getting. I have met alot of Evo owners on the roads of Orlando. I would like to get everyone together and talk about some stuff thats in the works like a shop dedicated to just evo's with parts in-stock at the best price! Also an AWD dyno of our own and powder coating. Imagine, John from JESTR's tuning, only the most qualified JDM tech's, spoke to my high school exchange student friend from Japan. Shinji is a Master Tech with experience with the SR-20 and 4G63, VG30 engines. He currently has a Evo 7 in Japan that makes 680 hp 705lbs of torque and is set up for midnight drifting which we all know is tha Shiznit! Which also brings me to the possibility of forming an Orlando chapter...MIDNIGHT!?
To have an opportunity to come to the states is all Shinji wants, So I can probably employe him for next to nothing, you think? LOL. jus kidding Shinji!
So JDM products wouldnt be a problem, but the initial over head is what I am working on....any inverstors, this is your opprtunity. contact for buy-in details.

Sat. the 12/18/2004 is the day of this awsome tuning event put on by our friends John from JESTR:eek: and the dyno facility at Aerocomp Racing
4205 St. John's Parkway
Sanford, FL 32771
(407)330-7300
All Evo's are invited. It's gonna be sweet!
I will also be signing up Evo owners for potential sponsorship programs through SCP/Sport Compact Pro which is offering sponsorship programs. Its a legit program, which i am currently sposored through. :bird: So, if you wanna make you cars fast for the least amount out of your pocket, and love to go to car show events and races. Then let me know.

[ScrappyJack]

Got a dyno chart for that torque-monster Super JDM Evo7 Spec Shiznit?

[BYESTI]

Got a dyno chart for that torque-monster Super JDM Evo7 Spec Shiznit?I sure he does in Jap. I'lll see if I can get the stats. I'm know he has the Tomei 2.3 stroker kit which is contributing to those numbers. Also, I was like wow, when he told me the tq #'s. Custom sheet metal manifold, short tapered runners are the thing in Japan....Torque=Drifting! I am trying to get a duplicate manifold made, but the price is crazy. The conversion from yen to $ was like $1200-1300. With a choice of runner design based on cam selection, throttle body, and head work.

[cr95gst]

I sure he does in Jap. I'lll see if I can get the stats. I'm know he has the Tomei 2.3 stroker kit which is contributing to those numbers. Also, I was like wow, when he told me the tq #'s. Custom sheet metal manifold, short tapered runners are the thing in Japan....Torque=Drifting! I am trying to get a duplicate manifold made, but the price is crazy. The conversion from yen to $ was like $1200-1300. With a choice of runner design based on cam selection, throttle body, and head work.
I swear to god I am going to pistol-whip the next person that says "drifting". :rolleyes:

Just an FYI, longer runners = torque....not shorter.

[ScrappyJack]

I think by "Tomei 2.3 stroker kit" and "sheet metal manifold, short tapered runners," he meant "GM big block crate motor" and "big shot of nitrous." Also, the JDMness of drifting is increased 10x when it happens at midnight. It's like lycanthropy for cars.

RJ - if you are serious about opening a shop, you are shooting your credibility in the foot here.

[racegate]

Also, the JDMness of drifting is increased 10x when it happens at midnight.



ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:D

What a joke this thread. Nice one Jack, I nearly spit out my drink on that one.

[BYESTI]

Drifting is a skill that many have yet to aquire. I loved drifting at a young age and, so here i am. But I love racing, except Nascar.

[BYESTI]

i think we are all loco!

[BYESTI]

To each his own!

[99AllTurbo]

You have to be sh*tting me! Don't come here making threats Ruben. People here will state there opinions and if they critisize drifting, then let them critisize. Don't come here making threats. Is that how YOU do things? Grow up, this isn't high school anymore where you bring your possee into an argument.

I'm local.

[BYESTI]

Mr T, read a book! or call Gato.

[BYESTI]

Carlos, thats BS....these guys are chumps. atlest get the info right!

[BYESTI]

Pistol whip? Carlos? what the hell is that about? No threats, I just dont play!

[racegate]

Are you serious? Making threats to beat people up. What kind of mongrel are you?

As far as I am concerned I will say whatever I please. Feel free to drift circles around me anytime. I will truly be in awe.

What a joke...

[BYESTI]

it's all good!

[BYESTI]

beat up people?
common guys, we are all friends here! what fun is there without some BS like this!

[99AllTurbo]

Pistol whip? Carlos?

What did you mean to say with this?


No threats, I just dont play!

So someone critisizes/makes fun of your football team and says they suck, so your solution is to get friends and beat them up? That's childish.

I know both of these guys and they can fight their own battle, but I can't believe you would threaten someone to a beat down for critisizing drifting. :tofar:

[BYESTI]

I'm getting old for threats! But i will take up the offer on drifting circles around vijay.

[BYESTI]

Carlos, why no Dyno day? Howz the evo?

[ScrappyJack]

Ruben - What does your car run? Do you know what Vijay's runs, since you referred to him as one of the "DAMN ROOKIES?" Do you know what it ran with 93 octane and a 50-trim?

As for your big Samoan friends, why don't you leave them overseas with your buddy who has made 700 lbs-ft and 680 hp and just back up yourself? I'm a little guy. Maybe the next time we are at the track and you are confused about which side of the AFR scale is rich and which is lean, you can "represent Midnight" and demonstrate how much you "love trouble."

Maybe afterward we can make up and go drifting around the foothills of Mount Dora.

[BYESTI]

Well i know that long runners =high rpm power. And short runners=low end torque. Do you agree? Yes.....i would to go drifting with you jack.
As for the Samoans, there cool, we were just laughing about the stuff we talk about. As for fighting, honestly i havent been in a fight since i broke my back in 2000. So, no more martial arts for me. Yeah, Vijay's car is fast, no doubt!

[Geovannie]

I'm getting old for threats! But i will take up the offer on drifting circles around vijay.

WTF is this i a case of split personality or something? You are the one that started making threats here:

"Midnight is a very big drift club found all over the world! You might want to be carful about what you say. After all you are local! Your in luck to, I have two friends that are visiting from Hawaii, which both are Samoan, weigh in @ about 280Ibs and 310Ibs. and love trouble! Did I mention they are in our group MIDNIGHT. Be careful who you play with guys. We love what we do! Criticizem will not be taken lightly. They just read this thread and would love to meet you two jokers! We will be out drifting and then meet at the UCF meet. Why dont you join, and we can talk about Midnight and what your thoughts are on drifting again.
Aloha!:madbird:"

Or maybe it was your split personality Rub the Douche? I'm not sure but as you said threats WILL NOT be taken lightly around here.

BTW, I think drifting is the gay as ****. That is my opinion. I'm a simple drag racer that thinks drifting is a trend that is mostly**** for ****ing ricers. Some are not ricers and do a damn good job at it and it might be fun to watch but I still think it is gay.

[BYESTI]

Guys, it's been fun. it's all good. We all love what we love. To each his own. Geo, i need some parts!

[BYESTI]

Is everyone happy now? Bad day....sorry guy's didnt mean to take it out on you!

[cr95gst]

Drifting is a skill that many have yet to aquire. I loved drifting at a young age and, so here i am. But I love racing, except Nascar.

My pistol whip comment was in reference to a pretty popular movie ("I swear to god I am going to pistol-whip the next person who says shenanigans!"), it was not a threat... Anyway, you are right, I don't know **** about cars. Please teach me 'o Lord of the Drift http://www.escic.com/vb/images/smilies/bowdown.gifhttp://www.escic.com/vb/images/smilies/bowdown.gifhttp://www.escic.com/vb/images/smilies/bowdown.gif

[UndrPSI]

WTF? I atually get some work to do and this thread blows up into threats.

RJ, dude you need to be on meds, that split personality/bi polar thing is a bitch. I dated a girl like that once.

Drifting! woohoo! I use to do that when I was 16 in my 1980 full size chevy pick up truck in Tennessee. What is so hard about that? Any redneck can do it, look at NASCAR. That is nothing that hasnt been going on for decades!

[BYESTI]

Chad thanks for reminding me. I wont forget again!

So sorry guys, I just took my Prozac for the day, just give it a few to kick in. Seriously, my apologies. LOL.

[BYESTI]

its all good man! :lol: its all in fun.


My pistol whip comment was in reference to a pretty popular movie ("I swear to god I am going to pistol-whip the next person who says shenanigans!"), it was not a threat... Anyway, you are right, I don't know **** about cars. Please teach me 'o Lord of the Drift http://www.escic.com/vb/images/smilies/bowdown.gifhttp://www.escic.com/vb/images/smilies/bowdown.gifhttp://www.escic.com/vb/images/smilies/bowdown.gif

[ScrappyJack]

Since you are relatively new to this board, let me clear some things up.

1. No one here respects internet muscles, especially when you are talking about flexing someone else's. It's best to just avoid talking about getting physical on the internet unless you are looking for pointers on an MMA forum or something.

2. Shep's car might make 700lbs-ft because it makes over 1000 HP. I have never heard of a four cylinder making that much torque with LESS horsepower than torque. It would be like me posting about some guy I know who ran 9.3 on the stock turbo in his Evo8. Theoretically possible, I guess, but so implausible as to generate expected skepticism from everyone.

3. There are no mountains in Florida. "Mount Dora" is just about as flat as the rest of the state.

4. Donuts don't count as drifting and I would be shocked if you can get your Evo to slide in anything other than understeer. I guess it's possible with some handbrake or suspension work, but I'd be surprised.

5. No one is handed respect here, they earn it. If your Midnight car club is so tyte, why don't you post up some links to the results of some competitions that you or your Samoan buddies have won? Or show some videos of you and your big buddies in action?

[BYESTI]

This is coming from the same guy that said longer runners on a intake manifold is for torque. Yeah, right on. great info guy. If you build the motor with torque in mind, it's possible to have more torque than horsepower. but what do i know.

[ScrappyJack]

This is coming from the same guy that said longer runners on a intake manifold is for torque. Yeah, right on. great info guy.

A. You must have gotten me confused with someone else when you went back and edited most of your posts to make you seem less douchey in this thread. I never commented on runner length.

B. Do yourself a favor and do a Google search for some components of intake manifold construction. It's not an area I consider myself to be very well versed in, but you seem to be confused.

[BYESTI]

Scott, the mortgage industry has been very good to me. The tax check is going straight to the evo. Time to get serious. I asked Shinji to send me the dyno results, unfortunatly they are Japanese! Are they still worth posting?

[ScrappyJack]

I asked Shinji to send me the dyno results, unfortunatly they are Japanese! Are they still worth posting?

As long as the values are written in numerals and not spelled out in Kanji and you know what kind of dynamometer was used, then yes, the graph is worth posting.

[BYESTI]

Jack, have your heard of El Gato Performance? He makes custom manifolds for just about anything. I have discussed having an intake and exhaust manifold made for my 4G63. He recommends the short runner design for drag where the torque is most important. I mean it makes sence. long runners, less velocity at lower engine speeds. If it wasnt your quote, no big deal.

[BYESTI]

In Japan, its all Kanji. But I sure we could figure it out. I will have it sent, so we can see this thing for ourselves.

[ScrappyJack]

Jack, have your heard of El Gato Performance?

No. Have you ever heard of BJ's Cylinder Heads, Shepracing, or Magnus Motorsports? They know a few things about high-powered 4G63Ts.


He makes custom manifolds for just about anything. I have discussed having an intake and exhaust manifold made for my 4G63. He recommends the short runner design for drag where the torque is most important.

You are confused. Short runner manifolds are very popular for drag racing applications, but not because they make a ton of lower-RPM torque. That doesn't make sense at all. Why would you want lower-RPM torque in a motor that sees WOT, higher-RPM duty?

Maybe you can lend me a book to read about the subject.

[ScrappyJack]

In Japan, its all Kanji. But I sure we could figure it out. I will have it sent, so we can see this thing for ourselves.

Send me the JPEG file of the dyno graph, and I'll get it up for hosting. I SERIOUSLY doubt they spelled out the RPM and Horsepower/Torque numbers instead of using numerals. In case you don't understand what I mean, this is a numeral: "500." This is that number spelled out: "five hundred."

What you should have is your JDM buddy tell you what brand of dyno he used and a JPEG of a graph. That graph may be be in metric measurements (like kilowatts and Newton-meters) but that is easily converted.

[BYESTI]

Working on it now. i will see what i can come up with. I understand what you meant. but in Japan, it's all in Jap. Numbers and all.

[ScrappyJack]

Working on it now. i will see what i can come up with. I understand what you meant. but in Japan, it's all in Jap. Numbers and all.

What are you having trouble with if you already have the graph? Just send it over and I am sure we can come up with a translation key for the numbers and unit of measure. It shouldn't take 2.5 hours to email an attachment.

[EVIL_EVO_VIII]

Goddamn?? I was just reading all this badmouthing everyone is doing to each other :kicknuts: . I cant believe this is turning out to be worse and worse by the replies :D From what this seems, it looks like a big misunderstaindg and bad communication between everyone. You guys should just drop the whole thing and forget about it instead of hating each other, Remember that we all are adults and not high schoolers. Thats just my .02 cents :devil:

[UndrPSI]

What the hell are you talking about. There is no misunderstanding or bad communication. Right now all that is going on is trying to get a graph of this super evo from japan that owns us all.

[Manie]

:censored:

:)

[EVIL_EVO_VIII]

What the hell are you talking about. There is no misunderstanding or bad communication. Right now all that is going on is trying to get a graph of this super evo from japan that owns us all.

:tofar: First of all im not talking about the graph. And second of all, by any chance, have you read the whole thread before the thing about the graph? That is what im reffering to, not the graph uummmkkk

[ScrappyJack]

Two different dynos, very similar results. Conclusion is you could have lots more Tq. than HP on this motor.

Just so we are clear, here is what I wrote:
"I have never heard of a four cylinder making that much torque with LESS horsepower than torque." I was referring to the aforementioned supposed 680 hp, 705 lbs-ft JDM Evo7.

I have seen graphs from cars that make more torque than HP. I have never seen a 4G63T-based motor make more torque than HP at those power levels - especially with a short-runner, sheetmetal intake manifold.

As soon as we see that dyno graph that RJ says he has, we can clear up that issue. We've already cleared up the issues of him and his big buddies kicking anyone's ass. As far as his confusion about intake manifold construction... I think everyone but him is on the same page about that.

However, we are not all going to join hands and sing "Kumbaya" or roast s'mores or anything.

[EaglesFly]

I just finally read through this WHOLE thread and all I have to say is:
1. Damn, some people need to do some homework before posting.
2. RJ, if you can get me some sponsoring, I'm all for it!

[racegate]

You people that are reading this thread recently aren't getting the entire story because the original poster went back and EDITED all his offensive posts. What a cowardly manuver.

[BYESTI]

Jack, I dont have the dyno sheets, this conversation took place over the phone. Also I am at the office, so getting him to fax it is what i am working on.
Stacy, I have the forms that entale the sponsership program through Sport Compact Pro. Sport Compact Pro is currently scouting for sponsorships from 5K to 12K. I currently have a co-op sponsorship which means they will pay 20%-55% of all parts and labor.They will also pay you if you win an event which you have to do four or more or appear in any magazaines. For details just shoot an e-mail to me and I can send all the info to you.

[BYESTI]

I started this thread for evo owners. I dont know what happened to the thread, but if you dont have an evo and since you hate drifting, why dont you post on a different tread with all the B.S. you want to fill it with!
I am not biased by any means. But this thread has gone to S***!
I just want to meet as much evo owners that i can. We all have the same passion for cars, why cant we just stick to the general thread outline?
Thats the problem.

[BYESTI]

Jack, I owe you an apology. You are correct. Longer runners increase torque.

I was thinking high rise manifold, single plane, which like high RPM's.
Dual plane, mid low end power. This only applys to V8's. :bashcar:
Stupid me.

[ScrappyJack]

I just want to meet as much evo owners that i can. We all have the same passion for cars, why cant we just stick to the general thread outline?
Thats the problem.

The problem is you posted some bull**** and people called you on it. Go to EvoM if your main goal is to meet "as much evo owners that [you] can." If you want to stick around here, just don't post retarded stuff. :idea:

We are still waiting for the dyno sheet of the Super Torque Sauce JDM Evo7, a tech article explaining how short runner intake manifolds produce superior low-rpm torque which is what you want for drag racing, and some videos or event coverage of you and your homeboys dominating some drift competitions.

Alternatively, you could just admit that you have no idea what you are talking about and claim temporary insanity/retardation.

[Edit: Alright, at least you've come off the intake manifold deal. Not that I am buying your V8 confusion; that's probably something you just dug up off the internet.]

[BYESTI]

If you want to see videos. My high schools buds are the producers of Grip Video. Most of the footage is done all over the mainland. But there videos are great. I am still waiting for an e-mail from Shinji for the spec sheet. Never said anything about dominating some drift compitions! Get your s*** staight.
How about you stick to the tread content and there wont be any problems.
I will have the dyno sheet, I am not worried about that. :bash:


The problem is you posted some bull**** and people called you on it. Go to EvoM if your main goal is to meet "as much evo owners that [you] can." If you want to stick around here, just don't post retarded stuff. :idea:

We are still waiting for the dyno sheet of the Super Torque Sauce JDM Evo7, a tech article explaining how short runner intake manifolds produce superior low-rpm torque which is what you want for drag racing, and some videos or event coverage of you and your homeboys dominating some drift competitions.

Alternatively, you could just admit that you have no idea what you are talking about and claim temporary insanity/retardation.

[Edit: Alright, at least you've come off the intake manifold deal. Not that I am buying your V8 confusion; that's probably something you just dug up off the internet.]

[ScrappyJack]

How about you stick to the tread content and there wont be any problems.


Shinji is a Master Tech with experience with the SR-20 and 4G63, VG30 engines. He currently has a Evo 7 in Japan that makes 680 hp 705lbs of torque and is set up for midnight drifting which we all know is tha Shiznit!

That's from the first post in this thread. I think that qualifies it as thread content. It calls in to question your credibility, which is directly tied to you talking about opening a shop and signing people up for sponsorships.

In the meantime, we'll be waiting for that dyno graph.

[racegate]

Ok, let me illustrate the "problem" with this thread.

Car forums were first used to exchange technical information. However, with big horsepower, comes big egos. This is just what happens when you get a bunch of guys together. Now RJ, understand that I am an arrogant bastard, but I am only as such in my own condescension-- that is to say, I would not tell you how to win a drift competition, as I have no real knoweldge of that. Bearing that in mind, I would expect you not to post incorrect information on intake manifolds, stating incorrect information as fact, without ACTUALLY KNOWING FOR SURE you are correct. Jack Thorsen is a fact checker, plain and simple, and I am thankful for that. Without peer review, this forum would turn into EVOM or any other ****ty forum where bull**** is proliferated throughout. Now, the proper thing to do, when your intake manifold idea was challenged, would have been to verify that you were indeed correct from a trusted source (not word of mouth). Instead, you told Jack to go "read a book". The irony of this is that he was
right and you were wrong.

Now moving on to you getting your panties in a wad due to the drifting criticism. We live in a country which embraces free speech. I am allowed to make fun of drifiting, in the same way you can make fun of anything you like. Free speech however does not endorse the carrying out of threats. Endangering someone else's life is not upheld by the constitution. So I stand by my previous remark that I will say whatever the hell I please.

End of class.

[BYESTI]

My bad homies! Got it done squashed!

[SOLARSVXawd]

wow,, i just seen all this what a head ache. and im glad i stayed away.

[EVIL_EVO_VIII]

wow,, i just seen all this what a head ache. and im glad i stayed away.


i agree James, this is getting worse and worse. Why is it that i have a feeling that this will get real ugly and will end up in a personal confrontation. :bash: This is all :lame: This is turning to be another dumb SRT forum! :lol:

[ScrappyJack]

i agree James, this is getting worse and worse. Why is it that i have a feeling that this will get real ugly and will end up in a personal confrontation. :bash: This is all :lame: This is turning to be another dumb SRT forum! :lol:

You agree with James that he is glad he stayed out of it by posting in this thread? This won't get physical. I already offered Ruben the chance to beat me up and he appears to have decided that it was dumb to suggest that in the first place.

Hopefully he will also recognize that he is confused about that 705 lbs-ft Evo just like he was confused about the intake manifold construction in this thread and just like he was confused about the AFR scale when I met him at the track. It's fine to make mistakes or be confused.

It's not cool to be a douchebag about it and act like you know what you are talking about when you don't. Don't call guys who have built fast-ass cars rookies and don't tell people to "read a book" when you are wrong about a concept and can't be bothered to check yourself. That's a very simple concept that we have maintained on this board (and the one before it) for several years now.

The way this forum will NOT turn into another ****ty board is by keeping an eye out for bull****ters and not letting them get away with it. If anyone is to blame for how bad this thread is, it's your man RJ. If you sensitive types are really serious about seeing this thread dry up, stop posting in it or help RJ back up any of the bad information he appears to be posting.

I am still waiting for the dyno graph. My guess is that RJ is confused (again) and the car makes something more realistic like 425 whp and 400 lbs-ft after a metric -> US conversion.

[Edit: Again, some of you late comers may be confused. Look at when Ruben posted and when he edited those posts. If it's more than a couple of minutes, that means he went back and changed the content of the post from threatening/belittling so you are going to get a totally different impression.]

[racegate]

Scott you are in the minority of EVO owners if you think its the best resource of information. All the non-douchebag EVO owners I talk to agree that it sucks. When I was considering buying an EVO and went to that board for information, I ran into that problem. Sifting through all the nonsense to get 1 good post of information. And that BS you speak of on EVOM is exactly what I'm talking about, UNqualified opinions. You just defended it, and shot it down in the same stance. Try the NABR EVO Tech section if you want no BS answers to tech questions.

But I didn't mean to single out EVOM... I could have easily said DSMTuners. Any of the bull**** boards.

[EVIL_EVO_VIII]

You agree with James that he is glad he stayed out of it by posting in this thread? This won't get physical. I already offered Ruben the chance to beat me up and he appears to have decided that it was dumb to suggest that in the first place.

Hopefully he will also recognize that he is confused about that 705 lbs-ft Evo just like he was confused about the intake manifold construction in this thread and just like he was confused about the AFR scale when I met him at the track. It's fine to make mistakes or be confused.

It's not cool to be a douchebag about it and act like you know what you are talking about when you don't. Don't call guys who have built fast-ass cars rookies and don't tell people to "read a book" when you are wrong about a concept and can't be bothered to check yourself. That's a very simple concept that we have maintained on this board (and the one before it) for several years now.

The way this forum will NOT turn into another ****ty board is by keeping an eye out for bull****ters and not letting them get away with it. If anyone is to blame for how bad this thread is, it's your man RJ. If you sensitive types are really serious about seeing this thread dry up, stop posting in it or help RJ back up any of the bad information he appears to be posting.

I am still waiting for the dyno graph. My guess is that RJ is confused (again) and the car makes something more realistic like 425 whp and 400 lbs-ft after a metric -> US conversion.

[Edit: Again, some of you late comers may be confused. Look at when Ruben posted and when he edited those posts. If it's more than a couple of minutes, that means he went back and changed the content of the post from threatening/belittling so you are going to get a totally different impression.]

It is dumb to get physical over a thread. Honestly, it is not worth fighting or arguing over this kind of things or badmouthing each other. Like i mentioned before, everyone here is an adult and this should be handled like adults and not high school kids. I agree that yes there was some wrong info and misunderstandings, and confusions but it should not have gotten out of hand like this. Honestly, this is what makes forums dumb and not worth posting on just like the Srt and Evom forum. :tofar:

[mike66]

damn this thread is something.

Ruben is not the type to really mean harm to anyone. He just likes his cars.

But Ruben needs to know how this board is and how its members like to scrutinize.

I joined this board 3 months before I moved back here from Thailand. I found the info on here useful enough that I was persuaded to buy a 2g. Guys on this board know their stuff. But again they like to give new guys a hard time.

As far as EVOm goes, Scott is right. You can look past the BS to get useful into. Guys like silver surfer post great product testing results and the like.

I think that this board is becoming a home to a lot of the Orlando evo's. A lot of us are former or current dsm owners, and we just like to have a place to communicate with our counterparts.

[99AllTurbo]

Miguel, what you have said in every one of your posts on this thread is nothing I haven't already said when Ruben was threatening to bring 2 friends to attempt to beat some members up. That issue has been dropped long ago. Ruben has taken back those threats by editing his posts.

Jack proved his point during the intake discussion and wanted to clear up misinformation.

We don't need to keep hearing from you that this got childish and so on and so on. Ruben understands that now.

[EVIL_EVO_VIII]

Miguel, what you have said in every one of your posts on this thread is nothing I haven't already said when Ruben was threatening to bring 2 friends to attempt to beat some members up. That issue has been dropped long ago. Ruben has taken back those threats by editing his posts.

Jack proved his point during the intake discussion and wanted to clear up misinformation.

We don't need to keep hearing from you that this got childish and so on and so on. Ruben understands that now.

Carlos, all i was doing was trying for everyone to stop all the nonsense and get along and not make this another ****y forum like all the other ones out there. Im sure RJ did not mean anything bad by all this. And im not trying to be an asshole or hate on anyone b/c that is not my intention either. You know what? Im going to let u guys handle all the arguing and all the bull****ing going on here :argue: . Im done getting involved with this b/c everyone always has to come back with a negative comment period.That just my .02 cents. And i hope no one starts bringing all this to the meets either b/c it would be even more rediculous. :nono:

[BYESTI]

Hey guys, this is all under the bridge! I am waiting on the reply from a e-mail that was sent in hopes to atleast give me some credibility on the dyno sheet issue. So, I am trying to produce this but due to time zone differences, there is a little lag. I apologize. But I understand, and i have apologized to Jack, for those who know me, you know that I am a jokster. So, to all those I have offended, I once again appologize. I understand where everyone is coming from. I to have came to this site to get away from the BS! So, I will earn my credability.....@ the tracks! Jack I was told by a very crediable source that longer runners were for high rpms. Guess he is full of s***! Sorry dudes.

[ScrappyJack]

Miguel - You were talking about something that has already been covered. We have covered RJ's main mistake about intake manifolds and his mistake about implied threats. Now we are trying to cover the car he attributes to his "JDM tech" friend.

Mike - I agree that we give new guys a hard time and we give guys with proven track records some slack, but even if a well-respected guy like Hector appeared to be talking out of his ass, we'd call him on it. Of course, he wouldn't talk out of his ass, which is part of why he is well-respected. ;)

I would prefer if the next post in this thread is from Ruben. Hopefully it will either contain a dyno graph or him explaining his confusion.

[Edit: Edited to take into account the two previous posts which were made while I was writing this one.]

[BYESTI]

I erased the post, cause I was in the wrong! But dont hate Midnight! I know you are entitled to your own opions, but guys, I was telling my friends how cool this site was, are you guys were bashing Midnight and drifting and s***. In Hawaii this stuff doesnt fly, so maybe it wasnt a smart thing to post on my end. But I thought I was freeto express myself and the club.They are the reason my passion for cars exist. After all we all are here, expressing our love for cars. And to help one another. So, "Cant we all just get along?" Miguel, stop already. Stop bashing, no threats from me. Its all understood! Consider this thread dead!

[ScrappyJack]

Jack I was told by a very crediable source that longer runners were for high rpms. Guess he is full of s***! Sorry dudes.
More likely you got correct information and got confused. If the same guy who built the intake manifold for Padilla's All-Motor Class RX-7 is the one you have been talking to, I am quite sure he knows a lot more about fast cars than either you or I.



Its all understood! Consider this thread dead!
So you have given up on getting that dyno graph?

[BYESTI]

possibly. As for the dyna facts. No e-mail response yet. Will keep you posted
though.

[EVIL_EVO_VIII]

All i have left to say is that this thread is ****ing rediculous. :lame: Peace, im out of this crap once and for all.

[99AllTurbo]

All i have left to say is that this thread is ****ing rediculous. :lame: Peace, im out of this crap once and for all.

Who gives a f*ck if you think this thread is lame. STFU!

[EVIL_EVO_VIII]

Who gives a f*ck if you think this thread is lame. STFU!

First of all Carlos, at any moment in time did i say anything towards you? No, so dont tell me to shut the **** up.And did i ever ask for your opinion?No, you have no right to talk to me that way, b/c i never disrespected you in any way. You need to tell someone else that and NOT ME ok. If you have a problem with me, then tell me but dont be telling me to shut the **** up and start **** with me on this stupid ****ing thread. And dont come in here trying to threaten me with your attitude b/c i have not done anything to you or said anything to you at anytime. i have a right to voice my opinion to whatever i want to say or do.So keep your opinions to your self. :frust: :moon:

[99AllTurbo]

If you would've dropped this sh*t many posts ago (like everyone else did) you wouldn't have been talked to this way. You brought it onto yourself.

I'll say it to you here or in person, doesn't matter to me.

[UndrPSI]

i have a right to voice my opinion to whatever i want to say or do.So keep your opinions to your self. :frust: :moon:

So you can voice your opinion and noone else can? I dont ****ing think so. My opinion is that you need to STFU!
I thought you were out of this post? You are the only one bringing it back up. It was done tunil Ruben recieved the Dyno graph, but you feel the need to prove you doucheiness over and over. Now refer to my signature please.

[EVIL_EVO_VIII]

[QUOTE=UndrPSI]So you can voice your opinion and noone else can? I dont ****ing think so. My opinion is that you need to STFU!
I thought you were out of this post? You are the only one bringing it back up. It was done tunil Ruben recieved the Dyno graph, but you feel the need to prove you doucheiness over and over. QUOTE

No, you need to shut the **** up. Dont come here and ****ing threaten me ok. This is not between you and me, and did i any time ask anything from you? I dont think so. I was done, until you and Carlos started talking **** to me. I dont need to prove **** to you or anyone on this ****ing forum, you are real imature you know, grow up. And i dont give a **** about your signature, it doesnt mean **** to me just like you dont mean **** to me either. "Now refer to my signature please."<------- :madbird:

[UndrPSI]

First off, no one threatened you. Second, no I dont want to know you because you are a douche and I dont like douches. Third, if your not trying to prove anything go the **** away. All your doing by continueing to post here is offer furthur enjoyment on just how big of a douche you can be. Fourthly, if I dont mean anything to you why are you getting all worked up over this? Now remove the sand from your clit and move on.

[EVIL_EVO_VIII]

First off, no one threatened you. Second, no I dont want to know you because you are a douche and I dont like douches. Third, if your not trying to prove anything go the **** away. All your doing by continueing to post here is offer furthur enjoyment on just how big of a douche you can be. Fourthly, if I dont mean anything to you why are you getting all worked up over this? Now remove the sand from your clit and move on.

Well, i would stop but since you are the douche not me, you continue talking **** over and over again, so you are the one who needs to stop, not me b/c you are the one who started with the **** talking. And honeslty like i told Carlos also, at any time in this thread, i never said anything bad to you or offended you to give you a reason to come and insult me like that. I am a very friendly person and have no beef with anyone and hate to be violent, but when someone comes and talks **** to me for no reason, thats a different story. We should all drop this like adults and forget about this whole thing, b/c its causing problems between people that dont even know or met each other. I am willing to stop and drop this whole ****ing thing and be adult about it, if you dont want to then thats fine.

[UndrPSI]

I thought it was amusing, but then I was sitting at work with not a damn thing to do so.

[ScrappyJack]

The reason people don't show up at Wal-Mart is because there are usually a group of us at the track or doing something else on Friday nights instead. There is a group of us that have been hanging out for something like three or four years now (some even longer than that). We could only stand around in a parking lot looking at parked cars for so long before it got old.

Miguel - As a moderator on this board, I am asking you to make good on your previous statement that you would leave this thread. I would also like to reiterate that I want the next post to be from Ruben posting the dyno info or admitting that he was confused again (or that the car doesn't exist, etc).

For anyone else interested in the conversion factors...

705 newton meter = 519.98 foot pound
680 kilowatt = 924.54 horsepower [metric]

While those numbers might make sense together, I would be very, very, very skeptical that Shinji makes 900 horsepower.

[Rob Harfman]

Holy ****ing ****! :wall:

I rarely, if ever, read the EVO section. WTF is going on in here?

The banning stick hasn't been used yet this week, but it
is readily available.


Bottom line and what can be learned from this.

If you are going to post information, make sure you know WTF you are talking about and can back it up. What your buddies might tell you may not be exactly right. Check your ****! If it isn't right, you WILL be called out on it. Some of us on this board have been around for a while. We know crap when we read it. If you find yourself in the wrong, be a man, suck it up, and move on.

Do not EVER make physical threats towards anyone on this board. If you want to fight, do it somewhere else.

Hopefully this forum can become the home to many of the EVO owners in Orlando. Threads like this will not bring people in.

CHECK YOUR INFORMATION BEFORE YOU POST IT

Merry fricking Christmas!

[ScrappyJack]

possibly. As for the dyna facts. No e-mail response yet. Will keep you posted
though.

It's five days later and I think it's safe to assume that this car is fictional. I'm closing the thread. If Ruben does come up with some details and a dyno sheet, he can PM them to me or another moderator/admin and we'll open it back up with the update.